[vote] Update OpenWrt rules

[Imre Kaloz]

Hi Hauke,

On 4/11/25 11:40, Hauke Mehrtens wrote:

> Why did you not bring up these concerns in the previous discussions we
> had about these topics in the last 6 months? Mid of September I also
> wrote a mail to all OpenWrt commits directly asking them to read the
> current proposal of the rule change and raise any concerns. I haven't
> seen any comment from you in this hole process before the actual vote
> started.

>From the beginning, the whole discussion about the change made it clear
that there has to be an additional agenda for later on. Just like with the
EU chat control, you only act when danger looks certain.

> The last mail from you, I can find on the mailing list, before this
> vote, was about the vote to rename the master branch to main in February
> 2023, more than 2 years ago. The last commit where you are author or
> committer in the main repository is from March 2018.

<snip>

> Where do I found your proposal for changes to the rules after the merge
> between LEDE and OpenWrt? If there is anything, why was it not brought
> up to a vote? All OpenWrt committers have the same rights.

Cute trick: top-post a shiny distraction buried in a personal jab then
reply to something _deep in-body_ hoping it slips under the radar.

Spoiler - I read the whole thing. Twice. Even scrolled ;)

The answer is well known to you as it was part of the discussions you
and I had when we've met multiple years and multiple times at FOSDEM:
"when the deck is marked, the only way to win is not to play".

You as well as a lot of people here also know (and some live from) the
fruits of my OpenWrt related "side-quests", so it will be tough to paint
me inactive - but let's get back to the topic.

When the math, psychology, and democratic arguments are airtight, the
last refuge is... character assassination? Classy. Real professional.

This is a public list and ad hominem isn't a patch for "I can't refute or
re-spin claims in a way I could win the argument".

As a professional courtesy, I suggest taking a step back there, as this is
openwrt-adm@ not openwrt-flame@ and you might not want to play
"dreckige Wasche waschen" here.


Still waiting for more on:
- Neutrals != half-yes
- Quorum loop-de-loop
- Omnibus overreach

Or just admit the half-approvals are toast and amend the proposal.  
Your move - no more hide-and-seek.


Imre