[VOTE] Use GitHub issues instead of bugs.openwrt.org

Sam Kuper sampablokuper at posteo.net
Thu Jan 27 08:13:05 PST 2022

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 11:15:31AM +0100, Paul Oranje wrote:
> Most arguments against going GitHub are about it being in control of a
> private company that likely puts its own interests (to be more
> precise: its shareholders) before that of other stakeholders, see f.e.
> groklaw.net, a legal trove that documents (earlier) practices and
> conduct of such companies. Considerations like these touch on
> principles, in this case principles of FOSS. [P]rinciples are of
> another nature then technical arguments (i.e. practical).

Sidenote: all good principles are rooted in practical considerations.

Proprietary code hosts can and do abuse their users.[1]

(Microsoft also takes practical steps to undermine governments and NGOs
that attempt to protect software freedom and open standards.[2])

Best wishes,


[1]:  E.g.



As the latter link implies, GitHub CoPilot is basically the latest
incarnation of Microsoft's "Embrace, extend, and extinguish" policy.[3]

It could substantially weaken the enforceability of the copyright (and
copyleft) license protections on which Free Software depends.

That is *massive* practical harm.

(License enforcement has never been *easy* - cf. Christoph Hellwig vs
VMware - but with CoPilot it looks like it will become *much harder*.)

[2]: Microsoft has for years been waging global war on this front.  The
best known case is its battle to reduce migration from MS Office to
OpenOffice or LibreOffice.





Microsoft also actively undermines open standards in other areas,
including email - again with negative practical implications for Free
Software users, developers and maintainers, e.g. per these threads:




A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: When is top-posting a bad thing?

()  ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary
/\  file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you.

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