Switch issues and CI to GitHub

Sam Kuper sampablokuper at posteo.net
Tue Jan 25 17:18:32 PST 2022

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 09:45:52PM +0200, Sergey Ponomarev wrote:
> Well, we may *speculate* and try to minimise risks but that's what I
> tried to say: it's counterproductive.

Avoiding unnecessary risks is productive.  It's one of the ways in which
projects and organisations stay afloat.

> At least GH is big enough so that it can protect its users [...] Now
> imagine that OpenWrt or SourceHut or whatewer website will be blocked.
> Who will try to dispute?

That is a mischaracterisation.

AFAICT, GitHub is not (in general) blocked *by* Crimea.

Rather, GitHub itself blocks users *in* Crimea (i.e. connecting from
Crimea) from using *some* GitHub features:

GitHub is not "big enough" to protect users *from GitHub itself*, nor
(given that it is headquartered in the USA) *from US Law*.

> But hey, the GH CEO Nat Friedman even, while being a jew, personally
> worked hard to unblock GH in Iran
> https://github.blog/2021-01-05-advancing-developer-freedom-github-is-fully-available-in-iran/

Again a mischaracterisation.

That issue didn't relate to GitHub being blocked *by* Iran.

Rather, GitHub previously blocked users *in* Iran (i.e. connecting from
Iran) from using some or all GitHub features.

(BTW, Nat Friedman isn't GitHub's CEO anymore:

Also, I'm not sure he's Jewish, nor why that would be relevant.)

> I just want to say that I personally agree with this concern and still
> for me it looks like GH is at least not a worse option even from this
> point of view.

Codeberg and SourceHut both seem to be better than GitHub on this front.

Best wishes,


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