luci-app-attendedsysupgrade and owut by default?

[Jonas Gorski]

On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 4:02 AM Daniel Golle <daniel at makrotopia.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 10:33:51PM +0200, Hauke Mehrtens wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to have the basic attended sysupgrade features in the default
> > images for the next major release.
> >
> > I am not very familiar with the feature and what is needed.
> >
> > I think LuCI should inform the user when a new major release is available.
>
> Currently both, the LuCI app as well as owut only show possible updates
> when instructed by the user to do so.
>
> We should better think twice before having all devices with those tools
> installed query online services for updates when ever the admin logs in,
> this has wide ranging implications regarding the user's privacy as well,
> RAM usage for package lists, data consumption on metered connections, ...

We could cache the result and only do an online check if it is older
than e.g. 24 hours. Or have a service do the actual checking once per
interval, and let LuCI just display the service's last result.

A service has the advantage of making it easier to configure
(interval, which kind of updates you are interested in, etc), and
maybe even allow letting it update the motd so you also get notified
about available updates when logging in via ssh.

Best regards,
Jonas