[OpenWrt-Devel] Kernel version for OpenWrt 20.X

[Hauke Mehrtens]

On 1/5/20 5:37 PM, Piotr Dymacz wrote:
> Hi Adrian, Tom,
> 
> On 05.01.2020 16:57, mail at adrianschmutzler.de wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tom Psyborg [mailto:pozega.tomislav at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Sonntag, 5. Januar 2020 16:33
>>> To: mail at adrianschmutzler.de
>>> Cc: Hauke Mehrtens <hauke at hauke-m.de>; OpenWrt Development List
>>> <openwrt-devel at lists.openwrt.org>; Koen Vandeputte
>>> <koen.vandeputte at ncentric.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Kernel version for OpenWrt 20.X
>>>
>>> On 05/01/2020, mail at adrianschmutzler.de <mail at adrianschmutzler.de>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: openwrt-devel [mailto:openwrt-devel-
>>> bounces at lists.openwrt.org]
>>> >> On Behalf Of Hauke Mehrtens
>>> >> Sent: Samstag, 4. Januar 2020 18:26
>>> >> To: mail at adrianschmutzler.de; 'OpenWrt Development List' <openwrt-
>>> >> devel at lists.openwrt.org>
>>> >> Cc: 'Koen Vandeputte' <koen.vandeputte at ncentric.com>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Kernel version for OpenWrt 20.X
>>> >>
>>> >> On 1/3/20 1:53 PM, mail at adrianschmutzler.de wrote:
>>> >> > Hi Hauke,
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> From: openwrt-devel [mailto:openwrt-devel-
>>> >> bounces at lists.openwrt.org]
>>> >> >> On Behalf Of Hauke Mehrtens
>>> >> >> Sent: Donnerstag, 28. November 2019 19:42
>>> >> >> To: Adrian Schmutzler <mail at adrianschmutzler.de>; 'OpenWrt
>>> >> >> Development List' <openwrt-devel at lists.openwrt.org>
>>> >> >> Cc: 'Koen Vandeputte' <koen.vandeputte at ncentric.com>
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Kernel version for OpenWrt 20.X
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On 11/28/19 7:11 PM, Adrian Schmutzler wrote:
>>> >> >>> Hi Hauke,
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> The following are still on kernel 4.9:
>>> >> >>>>  * ar7
>>> >> >>>>  * ixp4xx
>>> >> >>>>  * orion
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> There are patches (actually from you, May 2019) on the list which
>>> >> >>> claim to bump ar7 and orion to 4.14:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/openwrt/list/?series=107337
>>> >> >>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/openwrt/list/?series=107339
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> I haven't looked closer, just in case you forgot about them ;-)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Nobody reported that they are working so I never applied them. I
>>> >> >> do not have the hardware, I just made them compile.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Since there was no response of any kind from a third party, I've
>>> >> > just
>>> >> marked the two patchsets as "Deferred" in the patchwork, so we get a
>>> >> little more overview there. I hope that's okay for you.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes fine with me, we should probably drop these targets soon.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hauke
>>> >
>>> > I think it's time to remove the three targets and kernel 4.9 support
>>> > as well after the release has been made. Or does keeping kernel 4.9 in
>>> > master (even without targets) make it easier to support 18.06 branch?
>>> >
>>> > Best
>>> >
>>> > Adrian
>>> >
>>>
>>> This LTS version will receive updates for another 3 years, why do you
>>> want to
>>> remove it?
>>
>> Next release will be kernel 4.19 or 5.4 only, and the respective
>> targets are still at 4.9. So, they haven't been included in 19.07
>> (4.14 only) and won't be included in future releases unless someone
>> updates them. At the moment, it looks like nobody will update them.
>>
>> So, we plan to remove these targets now, as they are effectively
>> unmaintained. Those who still want to use them can have the 4.9
>> version in 18.06 stable branch until that one is EOL.
>>
>> In both cases, updating or removing the targets, there will be no need
>> to keep kernel support if no targets are left. Thus, we can save time
>> for maintaining that kernel version.
> 
> They can also be moved here:
> https://github.com/openwrt/targets
> 

As we will remove generic kernel 4.9 support from master this feed will
anyway not work out of the box. If someone wants to add the targets
again, he can revert the commit which removed it and start from there.

Hauke

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