[vote] Update OpenWrt rules

David Woodhouse dwmw2 at infradead.org
Tue Oct 28 05:25:40 PDT 2025


On Tue, 2025-10-28 at 12:07 +0000, Imre Kaloz wrote:
> On Tue, 2025-10-28 at 11:45 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > If you don't have a strong opinion about a motion, there are two things
> > you can do:
> > 
> >   1. Just don't vote at all.
> >   2. Explicitly cast a 'neutral vote' to say "I've seen this, and I
> >      don't mind either way".
> 
> So let's say we only vote for a few months about giving commit access to
> people who you don't support yet you are not against them getting access
> your two options are:
> 
> 1. "Just don't vote at all", and you are now inactive - congratulations!
> 2. Explicitly cast your neutral vote and make it a half-approval.

What on earth is wrong with that? I mean, the *term* "half-approval" is
a bit clumsy any maybe misleading but the effect is precisely what
you'd desire, surely? You indicate your presence and you count towards
the quorum, but without affecting the actual yes/no part of the vote
either way. It's not a *no*, it's not a *yes*, it's mathematically in
between when counting the votes to see if it passed.

(And as noted, it ought to be 2/3 not 1/2 for the maths to be truly
correct).

> > That's what the second option is for, to allow someone to explicitly
> > say that they *were* present and paying attention for the purposes of
> > quorum, but that they just didn't have a strong opinion about the
> > actual question.
> 
> The new proposal is taking away that option. What it achieves is basically
> whenever you don't fully support the vote, you should always go against
> it, even if it causes tension and drama in the community.

I don't understand why you think so.

How would you *want* this explicit "I'm here but don't care" neutral
vote to be handled, if not how it's being proposed?
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