[vote] Update OpenWrt rules

Daniel Golle daniel at makrotopia.org
Tue Nov 4 07:14:48 PST 2025


On Tue, Nov 04, 2025 at 02:47:46PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2025-11-04 at 14:06 +0000, Adrian Schmutzler wrote:
> > 
> > Though I do not support the "neutral = half-approval" concept either,
> > I think it is important to move forward with the main subject.
> 
> There is no "neutral = half-approval" concept. Can you explain why you
> think there is?
> 
> Given the need for quorum, do you believe that voters should have the
> option to indicate their *presence* and *awareness* for the purposes of
> quorum, without affecting the outcome of the yes/no part of the vote
> either way?
> 
> If we give them such an option, and if a voter *chooses* to take that
> option, what effect should it have?

Example:

9 votes for (A)
4 votes for (B)
8 votes neutral

In the currently proposed model, this would result in

(A) 9 + 0.5 * 8 = 13  (61.9%)
(B) 4 + 0.5 * 8 = 8   (38.1%)

While the ratio of the non-neutral votes was actually

69% (A) vs. 31% (B)

If this had been a decission which required a 2/3rd majority, then
the neutral votes would have changed the outcome in this case.

What we can do is simply not count them but assume quorum is
reached once enough members indicated their mere awareness of the
voting process.

What Adrian probably means is that a "neutral" vote should be
counted as 0.69 for (A) and 0.31 for (B) rather than 0.5 for each.
In this way it would not change the outcome at all.



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