OpenWrt and GitHub vs. Gitlab
daniel at makrotopia.org
Thu Jun 10 00:15:11 PDT 2021
On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 01:52:04PM -0700, Trent Robbins wrote:
> Gitlab offers free open source:
I will not grow tired to mention this:
gitlab.com ruinned gitorious.org, on purpose.
This is behaviour I would expect from Oracle or Microsoft, buying
a competitor just to shut them down for the sake of market shakeout.
Automatically migrating projects didn't work at all, all PRs and issues
are lost forever, repos and parts of wiki content was restored more
than a year later by archive.org.
And eventhough I never even tried the broken migration button they
supposedly offered at some point, an account with my name has
automatically been created on gitlab.com without my consent.
I only learned about that because I started to receive @mention
notifications and people added me to their projects there.
Ironically, in order to close the account I would have to first
agree to their EULA after going through the lost password procedure
for a password I never had.
Fortunately the EU came up with the GDPR, so that at least gave me
a way out there without having to accept their EULA before.
I'd rather pay for someone who hasn't deliberately destroyed another
community project than taking anything for free from gitlab.com.
Apart from that, it would lock us there just like github.com would.
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 1:40 PM Baptiste Jonglez
> <baptiste at bitsofnetworks.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > On 05-06-21, Paul Spooren wrote:
> > > tl;dr: Use GitHub issues instead Flyspray? Use GitLab.com with some CI? Do
> > > nothing?
> > I'm against moving bugs to github, that would effectively lock us there.
> > I think we should definitely move to a gitlab instance that we can trust,
> > i.e. that is durable and well-managed, even if we have to pay for that.
> > In fact, for such a critical piece of infrastructure, I would argue we
> > *have* to pay for that service to make sure it's durable. It means
> > finding "somebody" that would:
> > - perform regular upgrades (for security and to keep things up-to-date)
> > - setup working backups
> > - setup appropriate monitoring to detect issues (disk space exhaustion,
> > email delivery issues, outages...)
> > - react quickly in case of outage or when we encounter issues
> > In other words: a professional sysadmin that would make sure that things
> > always work, and that would leave us more time to do OpenWrt stuff.
> > I can ask around to friends that provide this kind of professional managed
> > services (not sure if they do Gitlab though). There may be free software
> > organizations or individuals that specialize in providing this kind of
> > services for free software projects (like sourcehut or ozlab for
> > patchwork), but I'm not aware of any for Gitlab.
> > Baptiste
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