[OpenWrt-Devel] OpenWrt 19.01 plans

John Crispin john at phrozen.org
Fri Sep 28 04:06:19 EDT 2018

On 28/09/2018 06:35, Eric Luehrsen wrote:
> On 09/27/2018 04:22 PM, Hauke Mehrtens wrote:
>> On 09/26/2018 09:38 AM, Koen Vandeputte wrote:
>>> On 2018-09-23 00:42, Hauke Mehrtens wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> We talked about plans for the next OpenWrt releases in this mail 
>>>> thread:
>>>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/openwrt-adm/2018-July/000849.html
>>>> This mail is more or less a summary of the conclusions, this is still
>>>> open for change especially the dates as this depends on people having
>>>> time to do the work.
>>>> The next release, lets call it OpenWrt 19.01, should happen in January
>>>> 2019, we would branch off from master in December 2018. This is the
>>>> current plan, but based on past experience it could also happen later.
>>>> OpenWrt 19.01 will ship with kernel 4.14 only, we encourage 
>>>> everyone to
>>>> update the targets to kernel 4.14, support for kernel 4.19 will 
>>>> probably
>>>> be added to OpenWrt master soon, but we will not select it as the
>>>> default kernel for any target till OpenWrt 19.01 is branched off, 
>>>> to get
>>>> more testing on 4.14. The release after 19.01, which should happen in
>>>> late summer 2019, should then use kernel 4.19 only.
>>>> For OpenWrt 19.01 GCC will stay on the 7.X branch, binutils and musl
>>>> already got some upgrades after the 18.06 release and could get some
>>>> more updates.
>>>> We are currently working on updating the wireless drivers and getting
>>>> them closer to upstream. The wireless driver in OpenWrt 19.01 will be
>>>> taken from kernel 4.19 or later and we want to update them more
>>>> frequently in master.
>>>> Otherwise we will have the normal changes in all places like with 
>>>> every
>>>> release.
>>>> LEDE 17.01 will get security updates and occasional bug fixes till
>>>> OpenWrt 19.01 was released, but we encourage everyone to upgrade to
>>>> 18.06 to get full security support already now, as especially some of
>>>> the packages are not well maintained any more.
>>>> Hauke
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>>> Hi Hauke,
>>> Hi All,
>>> Some targets are still on (EOL) kernel 3.18 today.
>>> This kernel also still exists by the grace of Greg K-H but could be
>>> dropped any moment.
>>> I've bumped it a few times (untested) just for the sake of security
>>> updates.
>>> But afaict, nobody attempted/requested to update these to a newer 
>>> kernel
>>> version.
>>> These targets were also dropped in 18.06 branch.
>>> Maybe we should also consider dropping support for these targets in 
>>> master?
>>> adm5120
>>> xburst
>>> mcs814x
>>> au1000
>>> ppc40x
>>> adm8668
>>> ppc44x
>> I vote for removing them if on one wants to take care of these targets.
>> If something breaks kernel < 4.9 I anyway do not care any more.
>> Hauke
> Considering that OpenWrt is volunteer spare time and hobby support, it 
> is probably prudent to aggressively drop old and less popular targets. 
> Considering 802.11ax is around the corner and (ac) is well 
> established, it won't be hard to find for example ath79 compatible 
> devices in (ac) or (n) as either new-overstock or used. They may not 
> be able to push lots of bandwidth, but if you have <~100Mbps internet 
> they don't need to. If you have >~200Mbps internet for example with 
> DOCSIS3.1 provider, then you probably need a newer dual-core device to 
> take advantage of it. Bottom line is it probably won't hurt to drop 
> many targets, because small budget users will still have plenty to 
> chose from.
> Eric
can we mark them as broken now and when we release move them to a target 
feed. that will allow people to still use them in custom builds for 6-12 
months without us having to worry about them.


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