[OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project
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Thu May 5 05:34:50 EDT 2016
On 5 May 2016 at 06:48, Daniel Dickinson <openwrt at daniel.thecshore.com> wrote:
> On 16-05-04 04:01 PM, mbm wrote:
>> Dear OpenWrt community,
>> spin off the OpenWrt project in the first place as a way to fix the
>> project and its community. Also, the phrases such as a "reboot" are both
>> vague and misleading and the LEDE project failed to identify its true
>> nature. The LEDE announcement contains a number of very valid points
> Can you be more specific about what you believe is LEDE's 'true nature'?
>> which we hoped we had an opportunity to discuss and attempt to fix, in a
>> public manner, before this more radical outcome. At this point, the
>> email as well as actions taken are very confusing to a lot of us.
> This is a guess: perhaps it is connected to the fact that Felix's
> nbd at openwrt.org address now bounces, and that actions were taken which
> were deemed to be over-the-top by the LEDE team? Certainly there is a
> great deal more doing on that either side is saying in public (which
> might be just as well since there seems to be a fair amount of bad
> feelings on both sides).
One simple question:
If LEDE team members are the ones who were suffering from some
non-democratic decisions, why didn't they bring it to public
discussion for community? At least on devel maillist?
If it was clear problem in remaining OpenWrt team then LEDE would win
the community right away or maybe problematic people would just go
away. Either way it would be more fair and open. And this is one of my
biggest concerns - LEDE team is promoting openness but didn't do their
moves openly (looking at maillists it seems they were hiding it for
month at least). Hate double standards.
>> We do acknowledge there has been internal disagreements, on several
>> occasions about some directions of the project, about the release model,
>> the lack of testing, the centralized infrastructure, however, there have
>> been actual work going on under the hoods to solve things one step at a
> Perhaps 'under-the-hood' is the problem. Did everyone with concerns
> know or have insight into what steps were currently being taken and what
> was planned, and have planned actions been followed through on, once
> *agreed* as a solution?
> Also, is the decision making process egalitarian and democratic amongst
> those still actively in the project, or are some 'more equal' than others?
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