wigyori at uid0.hu
Thu Mar 9 11:46:30 EST 2017
First of all, thanks for giving the OpenWrt members a vote right on this
one, given that we're still somewhat separated yet.
Yes. It's been said a couple times already that LEDE did improve on
things - some of which were long overdue in OpenWrt. While we can argue
whether these were blocked, ignored, or just forgotten, it can't be
argued that change is good and You guys should be credited for it.
I for one don't want to keep explaining to people who did what, what's
happening, why did OpenWrt stop any development, and what will happen
now and when - this split-brain scenario should be ended and all
development efforts reunited under the same umbrella, as this hurts us
(OpenWrt), hurts you (LEDE), hurts the community and hurts the industry.
I don't necessarily agree with some small parts of the new charta, but
that's something where I believe in discussing things, and if I'm talked
down, well I can go to hell, or agree with the majority and the "modus
I stay with my opinion that the project should stay under the name OpenWrt.
Parts of the community / small parts of the industry could have started
leaning towards LEDE, but a full rename in the heads of everyone can
take 2-3 years, both in the community and the industry, whether the new
name is LEDE or ShinyFirmwareforWhatever. I saw Openoffice/Libreoffice
mentioned in this thread, but I for one still have to think which one to
download whether I get to a new desktop. I also don't agree with the
idea of having "LEDE as trunk and OpenWrt as release", that's not really
a merge, and would also lead to further misunderstandings. While I see
the idea and thought of world domination behind the "LEDE" abbreviation,
that's probably not the way to go.
John Crispin wrote:
> 1) do we want to remerge
> Yes, under the previously named conditions that rules and source tree
> are adopted from the lede project, ...
> 2) do we want to rebrand
> neutral, i see many bad things attached to the owrt brand, however i
> find that the lede name is not very good either and has the taste of the
> reboot attached to it.
> to me it looks like the vote will result in the vast majority saying
> that they want to remerge and dont care about the name. only a small
> fraction will be biased towards a name. this would make the remerge not
> happen and the discussion circle around the colour of the flag. this in
> turn undermines the whole purpose of why the reboot happened and the
> same crowd that in the past had problems finding common ground would be
> at it again. i'd rather put the focus on the rules and changes to the
> modus operandi being put in place
> i can live with adopting the owrt again as this was never part of the
> reason of the reboot. remerging and adopting the rules has a far higher
> priority to me and the name is only a small detail that is blocking the
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